Loyalty Vs.Trust

[BT]

How many years does someone have to be loyal to you before you can even begin to feel you can trust him or her? I am talking about all aspects of life either in business, love, relationships, friendships, etc.? Trust has to have many years of testing thru loyalty before I think you can even think about trusting them! Would you give them keys and security codes to your investment in life? Home, business, credit cards etc.... if you thought you trusted them and him or her never gained loyalty? Visa versa? LMK your views?

[WiredGuy]

This is quite an interesting thread and the way I give out trust/loyalty really differs in all facets of life.

To me, in business, I trust a company/partner after a couple weeks usually. If both sides of the relationship are working to both parties advantage, I usually will trust them on future ideas and will continue business with them. If I feel one of the parties is benefitting more and they know it, that would likely tarnish the relationship unless they make up for it in other ways, not necessarily financial.

After a few months I tend to develop loyalties with that company/partner and that generally takes a lot of extra incentives to earn, such as the company or partner going out of their way to make sure I'm satisfied with the business arrangement or if there is a problem that someone is on it right away. Basically, taking it from a business level to a professional level, always knowing that the company/partner has someone ready to help out to further the business partnership, and not just for one parties' gain, but for mutual advancements to both sides.

For non-business stuff, it's rather similiar except you don't have financial exchanges going on. Friendships are easy to make and to trust someone doesn't take that long really. I don't really see a difference between trust and loyalty in a friendship because once I trust someone (and vice versa), I typically will never stab them to further career/opportunities, so to me trust and loyalty in friendships are very similiar.

Regarding love/relationships, I prefer not to comment since the women I've dated have always broken my heart or been unappreciative, not that I'm bitter or anything about it. Either way, I've become rather untrusting entirely in relationships so its better I don't comment on this.

Something bothering you BT? You know my ICQ is always online 24/7 buddy.

WG

[Meni]

I trust no one

[D.Minion]

2nd that Meni


F.R.E.E.D.O.M

[BT]

Originally posted by Meni
I trust no one

I trust my Mother & Pops who gave me the right to this life and is 100% the love of my life! And my doctor cuss she is one of a kind, I trust my Nephews cuss they look up to me...... I trust my right hand cuss she has never cheated on me!!! I trust the drug boys that got caught and took the time and never dropped dime! I have about 5 life long loyal friends I can trust and I am starting to trust about 3 or 4 people in this industry but there is more untrustworthy people in business than I met on the grind! Anyway, you can trust but it's a matter of getting years of loyalty and test of honor before you can trust!!! my 2 cents! "50 cents" :D

[JMan]

Yo BT WASSUP brother ???

Like the thread mano.

What I have to say about that thread is I used to be real hard to give my trust but now with all the past experience I prefer to give innocent trust right away and let people lose that trust by themslef, that way you feel less hurt when someone fucks up.

Bro hit me up on ICQ man been a long time bro we need to talk.

icq number = 124588247

CIAO MANO ;-)

[vidvicious]

Jman Welcom to the board bro!


Loyalty and trust .. tough one ..

With trust comes loyalty .. With Loyalty, trust is an option.

the only peeps you can trust now a days is yourself, your family and sweetums

And sometimes even your family can let you down

[paulsweet]

I tend to give people quite a bit of trust right away but I watch their actions closely - and everything they do to make me suspicious lowers the trust in a hurry. The way I see it you can't live your life without trusting a certain amount. Everytime you leave your home or drive your car, you are trusting unknown people around you not to run you down, rob you, etc. You can't control other people so no matter how in control of yourself you feel you still have to have trust (faith) that things around you are going to be ok.

Loyalty is totally different though. Loyalty has to be earned over time but constant affirmation of trust through different situations. I can't give a time length on this though as some people prove themselves really quickly and some people never really prove themselves. No two people are the same.

[JMan]

Hey Vid,

Yeah guess you will see me around here from time to time...

Let's go out sometime soon to shoot the shit bro.


Trust... It's an easy one.

Loyalty... Well i'd get a dog if I was looking for loyalty ;-)

Wuf, Wuf ;-)

[Hank_MrSkin]

Originally posted by Meni
I trust no one

I have to somewhat agree with Meni on this one :eek:

Give a little trust to many but give all your trust to no one. Loyalty,
Man by his basic nature is only loyal to himself. I have learned this one the hard way from most of my friends at one time or another:(

[BT]

Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin


I have to somewhat agree with Meni on this one :eek:

Give a little trust to many but give all your trust to no one. Loyalty,
Man by his basic nature is only loyal to himself. I have learned this one the hard way from most of my friends at one time or another:(


Hank, from you I take it as wisdom speaking!! How the hell are you? :D

[cheese]

I have a small circle that I do trust and that is only because these are individuals that I have known for a very long time. I have learned that no matter how close you think you are to someone they can fuck you.

[BT]

No doubt! And trusting someone you hardly know early on will fuk 20 x worse if they already have a motive! :submit:

[ForeverJason]

Give a little trust to many but give all your trust to no one.

I completely agree with this.
Though I prefer a modified version. When it comes to money I trust no one, when it comes to anything else, I can somewhat trust.


- Jason

[Rochard]

Trust...... Funny word.

Lightspeed trusted me with the keys to the kingdom from day one. When I arrived in AZ with my family my furniture was still in California; Steve was on vacation with his family and gave me use of his house. Since then, I've watched over his house while he's out of town, taken care of personal matters for him, and driven him home when he can't drive. He trusts me with the most important thing he has - his kids - I'm listed as someone allowed to pick up his kids in the event of an emergency.

As far as who I trust..... Not many, that's for so.

I sure don't trust my wife to balance my checkbook.

[$tanDaMan]

Some people should never be trusted,
The hardest part is knowing who those people are.

Then again, it's hard to go through life without having someone to trust, it's probably very lonely there.

[sweetums]

originally posted by vid
...the only peeps you can trust now a days is yourself, your family and sweetums...And sometimes even your family can let you down

Viddie...my dear, sweet friend...I don't know what to say. That is simply the kindest thing you could have ever said...and you're a blessing in my life... :love:

To address the original question. I think loyalty stems out of trust -- that loyalties may clash at times, but trust has to remain constant if you can have any type of solid relationship.

But, I'm not sure how much either have to do with a timeline as they do with the experiences you share with another person. Sometimes you get burned...it's hard and no...it's not fair -- but whoever said it was so was being cruel. However, each of those burns is a chance to learn something -- about yourself and the kinds people you let close.

[Hank_MrSkin]

Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold



Hank, from you I take it as wisdom speaking!! How the hell are you? :D

Hey BT,

I'm cool, what's shaking in South Florida, dude:D

[BT]

Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin


Hey BT,

I'm cool, what's shaking in South Florida, dude:D

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