View Full Version : So what's the deal with Chirac?
Yo Adrian
02-20-2003, 07:07 AM
Apparently he pissed off quite a few people with his condescending little speech...
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2259663
;)
Flying Dutchman
02-20-2003, 07:41 AM
France is a democracy, so "Chirac is resisting U.S. and British pressure for a war on Baghdad, irritating U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair but winning strong support from the overwhelming majority of his own electorate in France." makes sense no?
sounds like the principle of democracy works in France: the presidents opininion represents the opinion of the mayority of the population...
paulsweet
02-20-2003, 07:57 AM
Besides all the side deals that are reported between France and Iraq - you have to understand that there are a lot of Arabic people in France.
France had a lot of Colonies in Arabic Africa - Algeria and Morocco for example. A lot of these people have moved to France over the years (and there has even been a lot of muslim terrorism and unrest in France).
Its not surprise that the majority of the French population is not pro-war in the Middle East.
Also there have been a lot of trade feuds between the USA and France in the last decade or two and there is no love lost between either country. Since France came out on bottom in these feuds its no wonder their population is against the USA.
Put those two together and there is no way that France is going to support the USA on this one.....
shadow
02-20-2003, 07:58 AM
im not touching this one..NO WAY....
Easton
02-20-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by shadow
im not touching this one..NO WAY....
i'll touch it... LOL
to paraphrase Boneprone on his custom GFY title a while back:
"First Iraq, then France" rotf
it also amazes me how quickly the French forget how the allies saved their asses in each world war...
to paraphrase Ludedude's sig on GFY:
"WWII French rifle for sale: never fired and only dropped once"
i think my views are clear
hey easton isn't that far off...if not for the allies france would be speaking german, funny how they are on the same side in not supporting the us - haha the things that happen in the world of politics -
Flying Dutchman
02-21-2003, 01:27 AM
Of course the people of europe are thankfull for that, but I don't see the correlation between WWII & the conflict we have today.
France (and the rest of europe) should just say yes and amen to everything the US does, because 50 years ago they "did us a favor"?
I see Europe and the US as friends, and I don't know about you, but I don't always agree with my friends, but that doesn't change what they are: friends...
Marie
02-21-2003, 01:30 AM
I totally agree with my fellow Dutchie.
But then again... we're both Europeans.
Originally posted by Flying Dutchman
France (and the rest of europe) should just say yes and amen to everything the US does, because 50 years ago they "did us a favor"?
I also remind you that for that "favor" europe is still paying $$$ to US. US didn't do it for charity.
Originally posted by Flying Dutchman
Of course the people of europe are thankfull for that, but I don't see the correlation between WWII & the conflict we have today.
France (and the rest of europe) should just say yes and amen to everything the US does, because 50 years ago they "did us a favor"?
I see Europe and the US as friends, and I don't know about you, but I don't always agree with my friends, but that doesn't change what they are: friends...
The only thing I want to say is that nobody think U.S. will "save the world" from terrorism.
Actually I still remind you that in 1986, the United States was found guilty by the World Court of “unlawful use of violence” (international terrorism) for its actions in Nicaragua. The United States then promptly vetoed a Security Council resolution calling on all states to adhere to international law.
Also true that Saddam Hussein was supported by U.S., and the same happend with Bin Laden when it was confortable to have someone fighting against CCCP.
There's no heaven.
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